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Re:.....
By:  Ciaervo (Humour Impaired; 12347)
Posted on: 02-28-2005 05:30.
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    sandmann launched a war by saying:
    Let me first make clear that I don't find your habit of speaking like a fucking moron cute at all. No matter how many errant apostrophes or pseudo-ironic statements you throw out, you still sound like an idiot. Ahem, now on to the argument.



Oh, that's alright; I don't expect you to appriciate what I do for my own amusement.



    What the hell does that even mean?



It means: if Sept. 11 didn't affect you then you ain't gonna care about it so much as those whom it did. Thus, if you're accused of being a fatass, and you are one, you're gonna feel more for yourself than all those people who you didn't know and never felt anything for.


    Let me lay it out for you more clearly, though I apologize in advance for the lack of 18th century grammar and high-school verbal gymnastics: the name of the sandwich does not target a VERY specific group of people in a VERY hostile way. Associating a group in the abstract with being overweight != associating a concrete group with being Nazi war criminals responsible for the extermination of millions of human beings.



Granted.



    Something tells me that people would be just a bit more emotionally charged if the sandwich were called the "Big Fat Loser Nazis Who Died in the WTC Attacks."



Granted.



    LOL! I couldn't have phrased my point better myself. I'm just going to assume for the sake of my own amusement that you're talking about the "little Eichmanns" comment, not the "Fat Bitch" sandwiches. After all, which person is more "wholly contemptible:" the 300 pound dude in the plane seat next to you, or a Nazi war criminal? Case closed.




    And furthermore, if you equate "fat" more with "nigger" than you do "Nazi," you've got a bigger problem than your inability to prove a coherent point.



First of all, "Nazi" is a washed-up word that carries little meaning. People use "nazi" all the time; much like puta in Spanish, it's lost all edge and no one in mainstream society is offended by it except Holocaust survivors.
So yes, I equate "fat" with the N word. When you call someone a Nazi it means nothing except "I disagree with the way you're handling this situation". You don't use "fat" the same way, and very few use "nigger" the same way. The latter are put-downs designed to build yourself up by tearing someone else down. But you don't call someone a nazi when you want him to feel sorry for himself.



    Crispus Atticus (sp?) hasn't even been forgotten after hundreds of years; what makes you think that the victims of the WTC attack will be? (I'm not even going to touch on the inappropriateness of your comment).



Crispus… He sounds somewhat familiar (Atticus in To KIll A Mockingbird), but I don't know him. In fact, let's gather up 1'000 people off the streets of major cities and see if they know who this man is.
Sept. 11 is a lot like Pearl Harbor- sure, we all know about it (especially since a lot of people have made the comparison between Pearl Harbor and Sept. 11 in recent years), but does it really matter to us? Does anyone care about the individual people who died there, besides their relatives? How often do you find yourself thinkin "Boy, I sure do remember Pearl Harbor.. God Bless America!" Never! Pearl Harbor is just something that happened a long time ago; it doesn't matter to you and it never will. More to the point, how many seventy year olds think about Pearl Harbor with reverence more than once every couple years? Prolly not too many; they have their own individual problems and more important things to worry about.


    Something tells me that they will be remembered as being more special than some loud-mouthed kid on an internet forum.



Probably, but that doesn't matter.
And they ain't special. They're just regular, insignificant people who happened to die all at once in an unorthodox way. But they weren't remarkable folks. They had their share of sins, sure; you don't think some of those people are burning in hell? When a plane hits you in the face you don't have much time to repent. We puff Sept. 11 up like it's the tragedy of the century, but it ain't nothin. Two thousand people is significant when you quantify it as one event, but people die all the time, all damn day, and prolly more than two thousand at a time. However, there's no report at the end of each day, "How many innocent people died today:", to inform you of that fact.


    How respectful of you.



What? Why should I be respectful? Those people mean nothing to me. I won't lie and pretend to care and speak gravely of a "brave new world"; they're strangers to me and I feel nothing for them or their family memebers. That's cold but true.