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sandmann (Moderators; 1220)
Posted on: 02-28-2005 14:47.
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First of all, "Nazi" is a washed-up word that carries little meaning.
Really? Being the son of a German immigrant gets me the label "Nazi" from time to time. Tell ME that being associated with the systematic extermination of millions of human beings is "washed up." If you're going just by sheer amount of use, then "nigger" carries less meaning than "Nazi," and "fat" even less. Yet another argument you gave that runs contrary to your point.
The latter are put-downs designed to build yourself up by tearing someone else down. But you don't call someone a nazi when you want him to feel sorry for himself.
You're right. I feel no offense whatsoever being called an inhumane monster (which is the connotation of Nazi). At least when you call someone "fat," you aren't implying that they aren't even decent human beings.
Does anyone care about the individual people who died there, besides their relatives? How often do you find yourself thinkin "Boy, I sure do remember Pearl Harbor.. God Bless America!" Never! Pearl Harbor is just something that happened a long time ago; it doesn't matter to you and it never will. More to the point, how many seventy year olds think about Pearl Harbor with reverence more than once every couple years? Prolly not too many; they have their own individual problems and more important things to worry about.
So, according to your argument, in order for anything to be really "remembered," it must occur to you every single day and trump everything else you're thinking about, causing an upwelling of emotion? I hope you don't have very many memories. Look, the point is that they will go down in history textbooks and stay in the collective minds of generations of Americans to come. Cutting all jingoistic bullshit aside, that still means something, whether you would like to admit it or not.
No, the individual people are not somehow special because they died in the WTC attack. Their memory is, however, to be respected -- at least to the point of not equating them with Nazis.
What? Why should I be respectful? Those people mean nothing to me. I won't lie and pretend to care and speak gravely of a "brave new world"; they're strangers to me and I feel nothing for them or their family memebers. That's cold but true.
Why should you be respectful? The fact that you even ask that question indicates something about you. This issue spills over into your uninformed vitriol in the Pope thread. The point is that you don't have to keep photographs of these people in your wallets, but you can still be respectful of them. That isn't something you owe only to those in your immediate circle of friends. You'll learn that some day.
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The fates lead him who will;
Him who won't, they drag.
-Seneca
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